Openmandriva is out

[ashledombos]

No, in fact since the beginning, there is no legal issues, JMCroset representing Mandriva SA and I, representing the association, signed a license agreement

Then I assume it has only been just rumors circulating around? If so though, may I ask why the official wikipedia page is under ¨Investigation of potential copyright issue¨ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMandriva .

Sure It's explained in Wiki page, the fact is that the authors of the artilce copied exactly the content of our blog, which is in CC-by-NC, and there is a robot crawling articles and looking if there is similar text somewhere. And this bot found that there is similarities between this page http://blog.openmandriva.org/en/about/ and the wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =594199431 , as explained by Wikipedia

The previous content of this page or section has been identified as posing a potential copyright issue, as a copy or modification of the text from the source(s) below, and is now listed on Wikipedia:Copyright problems (listing):

http://blog.openmandriva.org/en/about/ (Duplicate Detector report)

What I mean by ¨nuked¨" is that there is nothing there other than broken links or links to nowhere. Human activity seems non-existant. The barren forums are wondering where are the updates http://forums.openmandriva.org/en/discu ... enmandriva are. The basic wiki pages are missing https://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Users/First_Time in the English documentation, and the French one is even worse https://wiki.openmandriva.org/fr/Accueil (werent the French the largest Mandriva community)?

Not anymore, we are two French in the community (Oh I may be unfair, I succeeded in inviting a long time French Mandriva user, but not yet very involved . All French users who left Mandriva support Mageia or another distro. And yes, we definitely need more contributors.

Is there anyone or any project at least to get these pages filled up? I would say documentation is what makes or breaks a distro, which I believe Manjaro has recognized well http://wiki.manjaro.org/Main_Page . I'd be willing to help out with the En/Fr pages this summer if you guys need more hands.

Great! There is Davide Garatti who started to make the work here: http://www.linux-corner.it/Archivio/it/ ... ratti.html He is in cooker mailing list, or I can give you his email privately

Soon we'll open the official doc website, but it's true that there is lot of work to do, and we are not a lot of contributors

Now I'm sure there's more to the Cruella de Vil story than we might be aware of. I still wish Mageia the best; its still a free and mandriva family distro after all. It would be nice if they became sister projects rather than rivals. Openmandriva=more adventurous/innovative approach Mageia= solid conservative approach. Are there many or any developers who work on both teams? I could easily see the possibility of both teams working together on the Draketools project, and other innovations to allow the entire mandriva family to keep their edge. Hell, even invite the PClinuxOS people while your at it.

Even if Mageia and OMA don't (yet, maybe one day) share lot of things (in fact almost anything), we're respectful of each community. Of course, each people may have his reason to like or dislike one or the other community/project... I'm not sure there is yet contributors to both communities, but maybe i missed some information Anyway, during Fosdem, we were neighboors. (For a quick proof I have found this picture on Rosa wiki http://wiki.rosalab.ru/ru/index.php/%D0 ... _43551.jpg you can see in white the OpenMandriva booth and in black the Mageia booth, and you can just see Anne behind, half hidden

Anyways, I also wish you guys luck with the 2014 LX release. The linux world needs you guys to succeed!

Thanks Panther96

[ashledombos]

I am surprised to hear that Mandriva is working with Debian and Mageia (I had heard about the Mageia server). I thought the Russians had bought Mandriva back in the day, so that there is no contact is surprising to me.

Is it the case that you may pick a Mandriva solution and in effect end up with a Debian server (It is a good server, but Centos would be more RPM "family").
Mandriva SA is in other words depending on the Mageia and Debian communities?

They seem to be producing some interesting stuff there so naturally; now I must try it...

Regarding the right to pay taxes: I am usually able to keep my excitement within limits regarding that (VAT) bit. The technical possibility to employ is nice.
I guess the financial possibility is the crucial one though.

I forgot to mention that the European identity is important - and the importance seems to be growing every day.

Just to get clearer on it, I'm talking from a development point of view, but it's true that Mandriva SA and Rosa have some common shareholders, but it's not a domain in which I'm an expert, and I'm not in the secret of Gods

I know a little MBS and Pulse products. MBS is the Mageia based server distro, with products such as Mandriva Directory Server, MSS wizard (I don't remember what it means, but it's for automatically configure and install the servers stacks). MDS (directory server) is free software, and was initially developped for Debian (by Linbox Alter Soft in Metz, that had been bought by Mandriva in 2008). So by tradition, and because lot of companies work on Debian, products are still available for this platform. Pulse2 takes its origin in Mandriva Pulse and Linbox Recovery System, the latter developed for Debian. Pulse2 is developped independantly to MBS, by a different team. But both team share their work so that Pulse2 works both on Debian and MBS. I'm not sure of the reason why they don't make it available for CentOS or RedHat however. I guess it's more for political reasons than technical.

About the last two points, I agree you

[viking60]

Thank you for clearing those things up for us. We appreciate it.

You sure know a lot more about those things than I did so I am going to officially declare that I am confused on a higher level now.
I am not in any trench regarding OMA or Mageia - I like good distros. So I have written the Openbox Wiki for both (humble attempts at least).

So I follow both with interest:

There might be individual views in here, even pushing the limits of free expression - but that's what keeps things interesting. I think we all agree on this:

A good Mandriva based distro is good for Linux.

[Blackcrack]

hähähähähä.... *the walking stick keep up*

and Mageia will still get their spanking, or what do you mean Viking,what kind of a puppet theatre what you always hold,
at last say Ashley the president on his executive Chair who Representing the Community, they are still brothers.. unbelievable !
The best Joke it is, it's Names OM Association and not OM Community, hahh..after all, then name it OM Lx ....
otherwise they would get the butt beaten by the programmers... hahahaha ...
At end should it named OpenMandriva Community and the Association should hold/stay silence behind ! *hit with the cane on the railing*
**Viking60 looking on **********
Or what thinking you Viking60 ......
******** Kammera fade-out to Viking********


*Laughing Blacky*
best regards
Blacky

[dedanna1029]

How's the drama level?
Yes, I'm being a smart-ass but I'm also being serious.

[viking60]

No drama these days, but Openmandriva has lost so much significance that it is not worth the drama either. In any case that is a good thing.
Openmandriva needs to stay around for a while without crises to regain some of the former strength.

[dedanna1029]

Yeah, I'd say so.

I see what you mean about it losing significance, too.

Sad in a way, but then I think they probably lost before they started.