Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby rolf » 10 Dec 2011, 19:13

GF's niece in Vietnam wants to talk on facebook, so I help her register, try to understand the security/permission settings as best I can.
She gets an email about a friend request from a girl she doesn't know in Saigon. I get these, too, not a big deal, except that I'm irritated how the various social networking entities are always pushing (give us your addressbook in one easy step!) for private information to use for, primarily, the corporate interests. I digress...

Anyhoo, these emails come with "Confirm Friend Request" and "See All Requests" buttons. Of course we don't know these people, choose "See All Requests". That brings us to our profile (this has happened to me), where this stranger is listed as already a friend! Of course, all the effort put into restricting who can write on our wall is right out the window, isn't it?

Now, this makes me mad: with all the money this Zuckenburg clown has made off this, he can't throw a few dollars at someone to reply to concerns. There is a "Help" link, which brings one to endless FAQ and misleading "Report" links. Click to report and page after page of more FAQ, no "Contact" method anywhere, afaict. Finally, I post the problem to the only place that I could find, the user-based "support" forum, which is full of nonsensical "look at me" garbage. The experience is quite the same when trying to deal with a Google problem and the magnitude of profits is similar, isn't it? This makes me mad. :f

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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby dedanna1029 » 10 Dec 2011, 20:24

Tip: Friend requests from people you don't know? Ignore them altogether. The request will sit there and sit there, and the system will see that it's not been approved nor blocked. So, it sits there and does nothing. And yes, their help is deplorable.
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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby viking60 » 10 Dec 2011, 20:57

dedanna1029 wrote:
viking60 wrote:Facebook! +1
Isn't facial recognition a marvelous thing?

So... turning it off doesn't work? Works for me.

Yeah right! And you think R-head is naive?
Why do you have to turn if off - who turned it on for you?
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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby dedanna1029 » 10 Dec 2011, 21:58

How many things are turned on by default in Linux alone? I can name one royally huge one that has me totally pissed right now. If not another 50.
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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby R_Head » 12 Dec 2011, 22:08

The best way is stay off it.

What happen to the good old days of E-Mails? What is the difference sending e-mails to your families and friends; why has to be plastered all over the web?

I know why, is becoming De-Facto. Typical monkey see monkey do and the feeling of been left out of the club.
Some people uses the excuse of communicating with family and friends. I do just fine with phone and e-mails.

Why do we have to consume the Kool Aid and the Sugar Powder Cookies?

I got some funny.... Google this "define an english person"
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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby rolf » 12 Dec 2011, 23:03

In GF's case, her niece in Vietnam can pay for limited cell phone access, but not an isp/computer. Although there might be other options, it appears she has discovered Facebook as a relatively inexpensive way to communicate internationally.

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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby dedanna1029 » 14 Dec 2011, 01:34

R_Head wrote:The best way is stay off it.

Yeah, but the point is, it's the same anywhere you go online. Emails even. If you don't want the spying, stop the crying and unplug.
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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby viking60 » 14 Dec 2011, 10:59

Yeah and stop talking and writing too - stop communicating !
There is the option of influencing the elected ones and ask them to stop the surveillance and provide legislation. If it keeps them in their job they will be all for it.
And always being aware anyway - so don't use your private data where you can avoid it. Do not give Google your cell phone number no matter how much they nag about it etc. (Yeah it is called password recovery - but that is not what Google needs it for).
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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby R_Head » 14 Dec 2011, 14:03

viking60 wrote:Do not give Google your cell phone number no matter how much they nag about it etc. (Yeah it is called password recovery - but that is not what Google needs it for).


Is funny, I do the same exact thing. They are not getting my number.

I might give them 1 800.EAT.SHIT and see if they leave me alone. :lol:

Email can be Encrypted with a certificate, we used it all the time in the Military.
You could use GNU Privacy Guard and do your very own Encryption like PGP.
That is weak, maybe, but will make them work for it. They key is, no to make it easy to decrypt.

Might start doing my FTP server and use text files like the old bulletin boards.

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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby dedanna1029 » 17 Dec 2011, 20:42

If you think the politicians or governments give two shits about whether we will vote for them, you're sorely mistaken. All they care about is being re-voted in (which they will be; there's too many sheeple), sitting on their asses, and screaming "terror" where there isn't any, just so they have the justification to listen in. It gives them money. They care not, so long as they get that.
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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby R_Head » 19 Dec 2011, 14:54

dedanna1029 wrote:If you think the politicians or governments give two shits about whether we will vote for them, you're sorely mistaken. All they care about is being re-voted in (which they will be; there's too many sheeple), sitting on their asses, and screaming "terror" where there isn't any, just so they have the justification to listen in. It gives them money. They care not, so long as they get that.


Your vote means shit from the gitgo... The Elector's vote is the only one that counts in the elections.

Is very scary how the electoral system works and how much little power the people has.
Just Google what is the Elector; in a small sentence is someone that votes "for you" or "for the one that a group wants to vote".

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Re: Facebooks Zuckerberg explaining data colletion

Postby dedanna1029 » 20 Dec 2011, 02:22

R_Head wrote:Your vote means shit from the gitgo... The Elector's vote is the only one that counts in the elections.

Is very scary how the electoral system works and how much little power the people has.

+1
I'd rather be a free person who fears terrorists, than be a "safe" person who fears the government.
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