Chinese desktop - caramba!

[viking60]

Well I was installing gnome extensions and discovered that I was low on space in / so I cleared the pacman cache and I was all fine,
But some of the signs started to look strange on the panel indicator for active windows.
Well my setting must be checked so I went to the Gnome settings meny and gnome-tweak-tool and it was all in Chineese!
Now this is a classic nightmare scenario - but hey I am a cool dude
So I went for the CLI settings in /etc/rc.conf and there it was the nice

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LOCALE="nb_NO.UTF-8"


So that is correct - wondering about Chinese intelligence now, and if they have made a cyber attack to dominate the world..... But I want to check out my /etc/locale.conf first
and again the Norwegian locale is set there to so .. (considering serious attacks on every thing Chinese by now).

/etc/locale.gen checks out just fine to - So what the crap is wrong???

Doing a

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locale-gen

Just to update the settings again - that should do it right? Wrong!!!

Logged out of Gnome and logged in to good ol' KDE to get rid of all Chinese crapola and..... There it was even worse!!!
Somewhat paranoid I am getting ready to organize the Berserk invasion of China.......
Only... The ClI was working fine the Terminal was all Norwegian and so was the keyboard so this has to be a DE thing......
Right clicking only gave Chinese but the icons were there so I could find the locale setting in Gnome an there I had Chinese and English but no Norwgian. That is bad since Norwgian is set as my Default (But WhoTF came up with Chinese as the fallback locale? )
I had to add Norwegian again - log out and back in and puh - the world is good again.
I ran rkhunter and chkrootkit, and they checked out too.

I have no clue what triggered this - but I did update KDE and I installed Gnome extensions in addition to cleaning the cache - so it must lie there somewhere.
I guess I have to say sorry China.......
Then again;: You can take it for putting Noble peace price winners in prison instead

[rolf]

Pacman is the Arch package voodoo, aight? Something about Arch that makes me think twice is it seems to be a little bit "busy". Sure, it's keeping Über-Berserk on his toes but we all can't be independently wealthy, with time to burn.

[viking60]

Yup Pacman is the Arch Voodoo thing. And it really is good.
I suspect the Gnome guys....or the Gnome extension guys. My wife is using Arch and she has no clue how to look under the hood - and it must all work.
And Arch is up for the task - not to much time to spend there, if you set it up conservatively. Use the LTS and I will say that there are less problems than with most Distros.
The big thing thoug is that you can always fix Arch - that is more than I can say about Mandriva or Suse or Ubuntu. That is the benefit of setting it all up yourself Mostly you kind of know what you have done...

I have no clue what Per Øyvind is doing most of the time

And this might have been the leap second----

[rolf]

Now is not a good time to hold Mandriva up to the light. Still, 2011 is working for me. Rosa 2012 seems solid the little bit of time I boot into it to do updates. I like Arch but don't want to split my time. I can fix Mandriva, as I've used the distro for more than 12 years, and I will wait a little bit more to see if it can be pulled together. So, I think there is some similarity about how useful each of these two distros is. It's a matter of taste, perhaps, atm.

[viking60]

Yup that is true. I would not recommend Arch to beginners. But as you see I put it on the laptop of complete computer illiterates. It is very good. Mandriva has been good to me too but I have the advantage of not knowing it as well as you do.
So I decided not to put all my eggs in one basket. I have taken the "it is all Linux" approach. It keeps me curious and yes, it keeps me learning.
But for business user I would probably pick Centos as a conservative distro for the desktop and server. Or Debian. That is likely to not needing fixing. I would have serious doubts about Mandriva in that context atm. And that is kind of the sad story of Mandriva.
It is good enough, but it cannot be trusted to be there tomorrow....

[dedanna1029]

How many times have I mentioned to people to print out the Beginner's Guide for Arch and the install guide and follow it to the letter? They pretty much teach one everything they need to know about Arch from the ground up, and makes it simple enough and then some for anyone.

Eh, won't waste my time any more.

[rolf]

How many times have I mentioned to people to print out the Beginner's Guide for Arch and the install guide and follow it to the letter? They pretty much teach one everything they need to know about Arch from the ground up, and makes it simple enough and then some for anyone.

Eh, won't waste my time any more.

Who are your talking to? Who has exhibited a need to learn or know about Arch? I'd be glad if you ceased to "waste your time" in your characteristic denigrating, condescending, insulting fashion, on this and every topic. Good!

[dedanna1029]

The complaints earlier appear to be "takes time", or in this case, "splits time", among other things. Just noting that it can be done without much consumation of time or splitting of time. There was also another that stated Arch isn't recommended for beginners. I've seen them take to it as well.

And, I was speaking in general, not to any one or another. It's true that the two, Beginners Guide, and Installation Guide, pretty much do show one pretty much all they need to know about Arch.

[rolf]

The complaints earlier appear to be "takes time", or in this case, "splits time", among other things. Just noting that it can be done without much consumation of time or splitting of time.

And, I was speaking in general, not to any one or another. It's true that the two, Beginners Guide, and Installation Guide, pretty much do show one pretty much all they need to know about Arch.

What complaint, here or earlier? Again, who in this thread exhibited a need to be rudely criticized? "splits time" looks very much like words that I used, yet you claim "not to any one or another".

I'll make my own choices about how I spend my time. Keep your rude presumptions to yourself.

[dedanna1029]

Well, I will say, there's a thing or two I'm quite sick of as well. It seems paranoia takes the theme here. I don't know how many times now you've thought I was talking to or about YOU, Mr. rolf, when I could give two shits if you live or die, for one. Maybe you are the one who needs to go crawl back into his hole and leave me the word my grandmother dislikes alone.

[viking60]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18756726

[rolf]

Well, I will say, there's a thing or two I'm quite sick of as well. It seems paranoia takes the theme here. I don't know how many times now you've thought I was talking to or about YOU, Mr. rolf, when I could give two shits if you live or die, for one. Maybe you are the one who needs to go crawl back into his hole and leave me the word my grandmother dislikes alone.

You have yet to explain how your vitriol is relevant to this thread, or has anything to do with a polite forum. Easily half of your posts are nothing but vile, arrogant, negative thread crapping.

She joins threads with reckless abandon, without regard to the quality of her post, often without reading through the thread. Everything must be about her... She will argue with nonsense any attempt to point out where she is wrong. She is manipulative and pathologically craves attention.

You have been like this as long as I have known you.