OpenMandriva

[jofazepa]

On this point I simply disagree, but I have no reason to complain about the communication of it.
I understand that this is not among those things that OMA want to correct - I am clearly opposed to that. I do not want to have my vote ignored even if OMA says so up front...

Regarding those other mistakes I have no problem with it - you are willing to improve on it and that is fine.

As you say you are democratically elected - so why don't you simply pick a name (Perfect opportunity to show Colhões!)

That way you can maintain the democratic high-ground. But putting it out for a vote and ignore 60% of the community votes does not entitle you to that.
Why ask.... If you are not going to listen? And what about that poor well meaning guy that actually won the majority ?

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I hope this was constructive and I do agree that this can be done in civilized way (as in:I have a problem with THAT - not with YOU).

Sure it is. I understand you point of view, even when I disagree :-) I just try to make things clear on the process that goes on, explain that we are working and learning.

The name choice will not have a massive voting, the community contribution will be to work on the names, suggest names, discuss around it, and put good arguments on it. The decision, and this is not 100% sure because of council voting running until 2 days, will be taken by Members + Active devs vote, follow by a discussion that I hope to be simple, that will only make official the results. If anyone has any great "blocking" idea, etc... on the winner, that will be discussed, but we will respect the voting the hard we can.

Regarding decision taking, responsivenss, I just can say, we are doing the best we can, and we need all the help available.

I also have no problem with Vikings at all!

[proyvind]

Thanks - And I think you English is good enough. And way better than my Spanish or Portuguese

First of all, and this is really important, we never said that the last choice will be from community. I would be fine with It personally, the same for name, but as you may understand the decisions on the rules to take are not taken by one individual, and therefor the final method was to as community for contributions, then ask community to say "what you like best?", and then from there discuss with community, members, council, etc... and take a decision. If that was not explicit, I assume my fault, as I am, and was by that time, the communication responsible.

That was communicated good enough for me to understand - so I protested against it in March. On this point I simply disagree, but I have no reason to complain about the communication of it.
I understand that this is not among those things that OMA want to correct - I am clearly opposed to that. I do not want to have my vote ignored even if OMA says so up front...

Regarding those other mistakes I have no problem with it - you are willing to improve on it and that is fine.

As you say you are democratically elected - so why don't you simply pick a name (Perfect opportunity to show Colhões!)

That way you can maintain the democratic high-ground. But putting it out for a vote and ignore 60% of the community votes does not entitle you to that.
Why ask.... If you are not going to listen? And what about that poor well meaning guy that actually won the majority ?

This only puts the Council in a vulnerable position. How much more is a council vote worth compared to a "simple" community vote?
These questions can be asked (and probably should be asked) - and it hardly is good democratic practice for the Council minority to override the Community majority with the argument that the Council is democratically elected too - (Lex Specialis)
When you put the card on the table then you must play fairly and take your winnings and accept your losses. At least you need to automatically explain when you override the majority vote.
Regarding your patience and willingness to wait for bureaucracy: I am not as patient as you and I would encourage that eager guy to work his but off - and get forgiveness later.

But I must admit that I like this:

Personally I prefer other methods. Maybe I'm wrong, and If I am, I like to be wrong.

Colhões! You don't have to seek consensus for every step you take.

I hope this was constructive and I do agree that this can be done in civilized way (as in:I have a problem with THAT - not with YOU).

On my way out right now, but whoa, just read this post, hats off, you've earned yourself a similar name as to dedanna's twitter name..

So yeah, just wanted to thank for the support, it means a lot.

[viking60]

Hmm My installation completely freezes after I have logged in on the login screen. So the testing has come to a halt. Since this is in a WM I do not seem to be able to go to another tty either.
What are the superduper key combinations to get a tty? Failsafe and all other options simply freeze....

[jkerr82508]

In vbox to change tty, use HostKey+F2, F3 etc. HostKey is Right-Ctrl, unless you've changed it. This works for me on Mageia 3 with a Rosa guest.

Jim

[viking60]

Yeah that was it - Thanks!
It turns out that it was the networkmanager that I had re-activated that went bananas in the background again....
So now my working Moondrake install looks like this:

Thank God for tmux
The GUI stays frozen though; removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf did not help.
I think the time has come to wait for an update....

[proyvind]

Yeah that was it - Thanks!
It turns out that it was the networkmanager that I had re-activated that went bananas in the background again....
So now my working Moondrake install looks like this:

Thank God for tmux
The GUI stays frozen though; removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf did not help.
I think the time has come to wait for an update....

Hm, I've had some issue with kdm myself after some update that must've fscked it some way or somethingsomething, haven't gotten around to investigate it yet, especially as I'm unsure whether it's a local issue only or not..

I'm currently installing latest iso generated on my gf's laptop, I'll get to have a closer look then, if everything seems okay, I'll upload the new iso.

[viking60]

Ok I had lost my network too so I had to do a:

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sudo dhcpcd enp0s3 up

(I had no luck with drakconf) after having found the interface with

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sudo ip addr

Collecting 125 updates right now maybe that will bring the GUI back.....
......
Edit: No! It still freezes right after login
Hmm a french name comes to mind

Capot Linux or Caputti Linux

[viking60]

Cooker meeting 2.5.2013
http://wiki.openmandriva.org/om/en/2013 ... er_Meeting

[proyvind]

Here's a new snapshot, just gotta finish rebuilding all stuff for i586 and resign all packages, then this beta should be ready to be made official:
http://folk.uio.no/peroka/moondrake/bet ... 64-dvd.iso

[Blackcrack]

nice, a big fad thank's ,
but i need i586 for old things and game installer like ut99 and other..

p.s. in 2 weeks be the official release like i have hear in the IRC-Chanel from Bero.
did not know that I bold in in the meeting , but now yes, already happened , it is in meetinglog *bg*

best regards
Blacky

[Blackcrack]

take a look, Viking, Per

http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Localiz ... a_services
common, make tha mod'h

I want at least 1 Berserker on the forum have !

and maybe a own Wiki with you lang !

best regards
Blacky

[viking60]

Ok I gave Moondrake Beta a spin and got an error message for Libreoffice right after the installation had finished. It did not affect the install though.
The default resolution is way to big in my VM and virtualbox option does not work but VESA does
This means that I had to set it in a tty without GUI. The network does not connect automatically even if

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systemctl status networkmanager

Does indicate that it is running.
I had to do a

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dhcpcd eth0 up

After a reboot life was good
Now I have to remove the CD-rom repo and attach the rosa repo.....

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urpmi.addmedia --distrib --mirrorlist 'http://abf.rosalinux.ru/downloads/cooker/repository/x86_64'


Update goes through and drakconf had to be removed to make the update possible. Still it all seems to work....