OpenMandriva releases beta Topic is solved

[viking60]

From Jim's link

Release of FINAL product - release date 2013-11-22

[dedanna1029]

I wonder when the full release is going to come out.

Honestly, you care? I didn't want to know lol.

[Blackcrack]

hi,

really ... as long as Raphael Jadot's president, it does not interested me also not ..
i was... i told was.. the hottest FAN (Fantatic Liker) of the Distro Mandrake, later MAndriva and was silence in the background,
and who ask Jean Manuel Croset for Fan's and helping hand i was the first who was on the Place to say, "where i can help !! "
i be an hot lover of Mandrake/Mandriva..
Jean Manuel Croset has call me back there in germany from Paris, he's an Swiss-german Man and can speak gernam also..
and i told he like me was feeling as all brake it down and no developement was goes on..

the 1. shoot .. they told me, because anyone told, i be an trublemaker.. i have to take an trialtime to be an member of the dem "Club"
or association.. ( hey sorry, bad play, i dont lay with !!) I be an Member or i dont be an member..
the Posting it is on the MIB (Piniatalinux) from Mandriva in the english part ..

Raphael.. this asshamster/brown-noser.. i only say .. in one place, asshamster,
in one place his boasting with his "i can do this ....his webpage" http://hodo.free.fr/rj/

and what it is.. no real correct Communityhomepage , only internal work wnd this what he
has do in the last jears for MandrivaSA ...

2x ask on the Artworkgroup for " can anyone make an Flyin/Homepage ?"
why do he it not easy.. because, he have made an homepage for the Frace Goverment of Savigny

1999-2004

Young work: development Web site and system administration
Mayor of Savigny, young employment

Creation and development of Web services:
Integration of CMS, graphic design;
Developing applications in Flash (city interactive / monitoring of elections report sport/plan)
Training the users on the back offices of the CMS.
System Administration:
Installing and setting up e-Mail and Jabber (XMPP)
Writing of technical documents.

oh, maybe have he does it not by self, let it only make from other .. .. i hate boasting and ass-hamstering ..



However, under such a President, do not give my work ..!!
Rapha.. eat me !

Why i not work in the Technical.. hey sorry, want you me muck around ?
The work what the Technical does, becomes the Association also ..
but It should run other .. the Association should be there for the Distribution..
and in the shadow.. buttttt it's nams "the Openmandriva Association "
http://blog.openmandriva.org/en/
And not OpenMandriva Community ..
bahhh eat me.. this is not an Community, this is an Association under Rapha ..
and therewith.. Rapha eat me !

Mr. Raphaël JADOT, Mr. President of Openmandriva Association you ass-hamster, eat me !


best regards
Blacky

[viking60]

If I read carefully between the lines here then I think I can detect that you do not like Raphael and that you do like Mandriva.
Personally I would like to see a good Mandriva because it is good for Linux and FOSS.

So I might not use it - but I have helped in removing a few bugs (that still are in ROSA - like the nb bugs) which will make OM more usable in Valhalla.
And I partially buy the European origin too - since all software coming from the US seems to be abused these days.

[Blackcrack]

If I read carefully between the lines here then I think I can detect that you do not like Raphael and that you do like Mandriva.

because a president, focusing only on the wind is not good for Mandr.. for the community ..
And, an President, who's easy deleting things in the wiki, it's already not good for the community and many things also ..

Mandrake ... Mandrake ma' Frend *s* WITH !! The Original Installer !

best regards
Blacky

[dedanna1029]

If I read carefully between the lines here then I think I can detect that you do not like Raphael and that you do like Mandriva.
Personally I would like to see a good Mandriva because it is good for Linux and FOSS.

So I might not use it - but I have helped in removing a few bugs (that still are in ROSA - like the nb bugs) which will make OM more usable in Valhalla.
And I partially buy the European origin too - since all software coming from the US seems to be abused these days.

Yes, but are you kidding? Mandriva were the original drama whores, and at times it affected the distro badly. Forgive me for being so blatant, but sometimes the truth hurts. I know you helped with it and OpenMandriva - we all made our contributions to Mandriva, but any takeoff from Mandriva now is the same and worse about it. "the Association should be there for the Distribution..." Truer words were never spoken, and this has been my problem with both Mandriva SA and OpenMandriva all along - they're not. They've always been more concerned with their "rise to fame," defaming each other, turning their backs on those who help the most, wasting time and money that users gave them (Powerpack money that MDV SA used for a huge FOSS event that they backed out on anyone, and couldn't get the money back from?), and extremely destructive power plays. It's never been about the distros. 100% agreed on your last statement, Blacky.
A house divided against itself can not stand!

[dedanna1029]

After all that with both distros, how can anyone really care about anything more that comes out of it? How can anyone be expected to care, really? We're all too numb from it.

[viking60]

If a good distro comes out of it - I don't care.
The french have a long and distinguished tradition of revolutions and screwing up And they always seem to prefer to scrath their heads with their toes...
So they have to prove that they can keep a distro out there - because this one is going to get out there this time.

The usual procedure is:

The distro gets out
The drama starts
Everybody fights
The distro dies
And then they want everybody to contribute to get some kind of mandriva out there again..
...go to first entry

Thats the tradition

But this is going to be a userfriendly good distro as it looks now,

[dedanna1029]

Just one slight problem. In the case of OpenMandriva, step #2 came way, way sooner than #1, which I think may be running off a lot of users before they start.

Yep, they do need to prove the distro out step. Especially now.

You know I'm going to play devil's advocate on this - and it's for a reason. They better get up off it and prove me wrong.

[viking60]

Just one slight problem. In the case of OpenMandriva, step #2 came way, way sooner than #1, which I think may be running off a lot of users before they start.

No that was step 5

You know I'm going to play devil's advocate on this - and it's for a reason. They better get up off it and prove me wrong.

Sure; freedom of speech is a nice thing. And they do have a lot to prove.
As you know I have been heavily critisizeing their years of "organazing" stuff that had other purpose than getting the distro out there.
But i am pragmatic about it - It is not a principle to hammer them (I never thought they would manage to bring a distro out there).
And a good distro always brings me in a forgiving mood....and there are guys there that are swiftly responding to reported bugs.

That is very good - I need to praise the positive things too. And those draktools make Mandriva a serious contender in the emerging newbie market.
The beta works well and OM with Openbox works like a charm here.

I do miss some programs like Glances and gmrun but what is there works pretty well now.

[Blackcrack]

I would even suggest that I'm the president next time,
then, I would first distribute ass kicks,
but then thoughtful leading the Distribution and not
then wiggle like a duck they at end on spit ends ..

it is need a right hand to leading an whole distribution and get an correct coordinating ..

it's really pity to be goes like it goes at moment.. i use therefor to hold me selves away from
OM an other Distribution, this is the reason, why i use at moment an other Distro, and not OM,
because if i use OM, then i be to near on my loved Distro .. and therewith I deny this and hold
me selves away from it..

and at last i am waiting and have a look how it all develops in near time ..
letz' have a look in the next times.. Year ? Years ?

best regards
Blacky

[viking60]

Hmm this is strange:
I cannot run

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systemd-analyze

on this beta it cannot find the command...
Naturally that means that I cannot run

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systemd-analyze blame

either
I don't think that is a feature
Bugzilla here we come:

The bug
Edit:
Argh I remember I asked Per Øyvind the same thing with Moondrake - Mandriva needs systemd-tools to make that work.
It is the only distro I have where I have to install extra tools - on my other distros it comes with the distro.