Mandriva 2011 is released

[viking60]

Mandriva 2011 Official is out! You can take a look at the details here The install process is simpler without loosing the flexibility. Making it easy to install Mandriva. Dolphin has become simpler and more user friendly for new comers. Here are the release notes including upgrade info. The Rosalab menu is new and will be popular among new users. Rocket panel Stack folder+++ Lots of goodies here

Adding repos has changed:
http://urpmi.mandriva.ru/

[rolf]

I'm going to wait for the fallout from early adopters on this one. After all, the installer won't even boot to a working X server. https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62825
I think I can work around that but I want to be a little more sure I can get the new Sputniksky to be as productive as I need it to be.

And thank you for the detailed reports. They will help me chart my way!

[viking60]

Yes I see.
And that reminds me that I forgot to mention the errata.
There was some horrible Russian/French english there so i fixed it (to horrible Valhalla english ).
I cannot help you falling on my nose because I did simply remove all my media with

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sudo urpmi.removemedia -a

and then I added the main media with http://urpmi.mandriva.ru/
I will have a go at the iso later....
It still is early and there were some minor errors and one signature error. But everything worked after a reboot. Including the Rosalab TimeFrame.
It is handy for finding documents by date.
If you do not like the Rosalab panel - called rocket bar - just remove it and add a standard panel. It still looks very good and you get the smaller icons back.

[R_Head]

Crap my knowledge of Cyrillic is awful

Easy URPMI still behind

[rolf]

Very good. I had wondered about update and the "A New Distribution is Available!" pop-up from Mandriva applet that is, after all, pretty cool but likely not implemented this time. I think about testing with some separate installation, whether to expose my decade-old /home to what might go horribly wrong, the possible snafus of switching a test /home to old /home after some period of trial, the state of my current backup strategy, can I afford to buy a discounted 1- or 2-TB disk right now.....
Then, my eyes glaze over, my mouse arm starts slowing down and moving in jerky jumps, and I have to use the button to reset my brain
So, if the Sputnik does not crash to Earth in a fireball over some distant installation, I will probably use the removemedia/addmedia method before too long.

[viking60]

That will probably work fine.
Interestingly they have removed the "cleanup unnecessary packages" from the install routine. So now you have to clean it up yourself with:
su

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/usr/sbin/remove-unused-packages

You better do it if you do not want Chinese Russian and Norwegegian KDE

[rolf]

Yes, Dwight Paige made such a point on cooker ML: http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2011-08/msg00369.php

I've got some Vietnamese stuff loaded, lets me switch the keyboard to make GF's dvd glabels in Vietnamese, pretty kool. Wonder what that script would do to that?

[viking60]

Yes I am not sure how it works but I guess if you have some software or setting that depends on it - the script will keep it.
Anyway the totally official Mandriva version installed from Iso has everything working nicely here now. Even the TimeFrame stuff in the Rosalab menu works fine now:

[viking60]

Here are some reviews:

PCWorld

Particularly given all the controversy surrounding Ubuntu 11.04 “Natty Narwhal” and its Unity desktop--not to mention the equally controversial GNOME 3--Mandriva 2011 could provide a nice alternative. I really like the look of its KDE desktop, too. Best of all, of course, is that this is Linux: free and easy to test out, highly secure, and yours to customize to your heart's content.

ZDNet

At first glance this looks like it might be a pretty good compromise between the traditional desktops we have been used to for years and the new directions that Gnome 3 and Unity want to take. Hmmm. These are interesting times...

Distrowatch is looking after the interests of the classical, very conservative, Linux users:

Since I am not a huge fan of these menus that make my computer monitor look like a giant smartphone, I attempted to remove "SimpleWelcome" and replace it with the classic KDE menu. Here I ran into a problem; while it was possible to add the "Application Launcher" widget to the panel, I was unable to move it into my preferred position as the normal way of moving icons on a KDE 4 panel (via "Panel Settings") was not available on the default Mandriva panel. Another Mandriva/Rosa Labs new is a "RocketBar", a fork of the KDE panel with some interesting features. Unfortunately, I could only read about them in the release notes - no matter how many times I added the "RocketBar" to my desktop, I noticed nothing new. It's possible that it only works if you have an accelerated video card and desktop effects enabled, although the release notes say nothing about this. One other Rosa Labs tool worth mentioning is the "StackFolder", a useful applet for the KDE plasma desktop allowing fast access to often-used folders. Now in his eagerness to make Mandriva 2011 look like nothing has changed he is making some amusing errors not realizing that the RocketBar is the bar he is already using - that is probably why he did not se the three or four he added on top of eachoter I liked the Smartphone remark though. I believe I have used it myself on several occasions

[rolf]

I don't see 2011 as a version choice for PLF packages. ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pu ... /mandriva/

I guess I'll try with the 'cooker' repository.

[viking60]

I believe they have transferred some of Plf to the Main repo:
http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2011/07/27/ ... c2-is-out/

- We started transferring some packages from PLF repository to the «main». Less actions in post install time are better, aren’t they?

Strange though I am not sure what has happened here.
Edit:
I have some bad and some god news.
Just checked:
http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic. ... 6&t=135693
Looks like some of it is in the Edumandriva repo and most of it is not maintained at the moment
The good thing about this is that it took them only 30 sec to answer. And that it will be a restricted repo in the future if I understand it correctly.
Also, in the meantime, they are willing to build the packages and put them in the Edumandriva repo on request.

[rolf]

Thanks for the sleuthing

I have started with the update, using cooker PLF, and there are some problems. A few seem related to MIB packages having a higher version number than the 2011 package from Mandriva. Trying to downgrade one or two at a time leads to other version-dependency problems. There is a warning that lib64rpm4 will have to be removed in order to install lib64rpm5 and there were a lot of growing pains reported on cooker during the transition to rpm5, so that's scary. How did you get around that? Then, 14G / has got too full for the installation/upgrade of 2000+ packages, urpmi seems to want to download all the rpms to disk before installing.

Anyway, I uninstalled a number of older/unused kernel packages and tried again. Watching packages downloading in MandivaUpdate and checking df periodically, I had to Ctrl-C as the ~375MB tetex something package was topping up /... I wonder if I can just remove that, don't use it, but some things have unexpected dependencies.

So, from a gparted livecd, I am trying to shrink the adjacent partition and grow / about 10G. That's been running all night and gparted (pretty amazing software ) reports about 5-1/2 more hours to go. The adjacent partition was almost 900G and, apparently, it takes some time to shift that many 0s and 1s 10G over. Then, I'll try again.

Trying to work through the dead X of the installer for a fresh install is a fallback but I've got quite a few programs installed that are not rpm, not in the distro, require building or extraction from a tarball to /, so I'll try upgrade a little bit more.