Mandriva 2011 is released

[viking60]

Oh boy sounds like trouble. I have never succeeded in re-sizing my partitions and actually getting them to work afterwords.
Gparted does it just fine but Linux is very sensitive to re-sizing partitions - unlike Windows - I am sorry to say.
But I have been using Gparted for a long time - It is a good program.
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If you upgraded according to this with the command;

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urpmi --wget --download-all --auto-update

then all the files will be downloaded before the install. It is supposed to make things safer.
Urpmi will remove the downloaded files afterwords if you do not specify the noclean switch. It is my theory that this process will take up more space than usual.

Regarding getting around that rpm4/rpm5 lib thing, I didn't, and that is because I have only downgraded from Mandriva 2012.
I did get some similar problems though. I usually just go on and if there are files in conflict ot strange dependencies; I delete all I can and do a

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urpmi --auto-update -a

Some removing and re-installing is usually involved. (Those higher version numbers have to go )

[rolf]

More helpful, info, thanks!

I am using urpmi --auto-select (after all, after adding PLF sources and --distrib @ kernel.org, my favorite nearby mirror, sources are up to date) or, a bit later --auto-update, just in case. Even so, or when using rpmdrake from mcc, the downloading of packages goes on until I have to stop for the disk full condition. However, I will be explicit with --download-all in the next try, if there is a next time.

[root@localhost ~]# urpmi --wget --auto-update --download-all /path/to/download/folder

Using another spacious mount point to store the downloaded rpms is another good point; going forward, I'll have to try to hone my mad guru skilz with the information you have pointed out, thanks again!

[dedanna1029]

Just a quick question. Why do you guys, when you initially install yer distros, use such small / partitions? These days I use nothing less than 24Gbs on a 160Gb drive, and no less than 32Gbs on a 200Gb drive. On a 1T drive, I'd probably use bare minimum 50Gbs for the root partition.

[dedanna1029]

These days proggies are getting bigger and bigger. You need a lot more room.

[rolf]

For most of the last 10 years, 7 or 8 G for / was not used up during each release, then new ones were fresh-installed. Now, I see some big database applications, like mysql pulled in for the new, to me, web server stuff, a lot for mythtv, a little for my out-of-distro add-ons, etc. So, force of habit, which I will have to change.

[rolf]

Gparted has finished and I'm booted back to Mandriva 2010.2, 11 more G usable goodness on /.

I am more confident in this softwares reliability; do not recall a non-working manipulation of my, primarily reiserfs, filesystems. Now, maybe another run of the rsync backup script and I'll give the update instructions another go!

[viking60]

I use ext4 and I have learned the hard way to reserve enough space when installing. On the positive side I am getting extremely good at installing. Hell I even now how to install Arch by heart now.

[dedanna1029]

Yeah, me too. LOL.

[dedanna1029]

For Arch, I keep a bare minimum / partition. I never use that much and try to keep it to half usage. Rarely get beyond 62% on it. Fedora, since it's easy to upgrade yet takes a lot of space to do so, PLUS the packages are large anyway, I keep bare minimum 40Gb /, and its average usage is a whopping 71%!! Keep that in mind guys. Those rpm distros will eat you alive these days, as will debian distros.

[dedanna1029]

Um sorry, Arch is bare minimum 32Gb partition. It's easy to clean though with 'pacman -Scc'.

[rolf]

Well, I got maybe 3/4 of the way through 2131 packages with the urpmi update method, then crash and burn Sputnik! Whatever I tried, up to a --force on all the rpms left in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms, which would not install anything, it would not update, so I escalated to an ftp install from boot.iso. That completed but would not boot, dropping to the emergency/maintenance shell, where I could not fix it.

Ok, so I got boot.iso for Mageia 1, put on CF in a card reader, did an ftp installation of that, which is much less problematic. The interface is familiar, going through all the typical irritations of a fresh install. Can't find gtkam in Mageia so borrow from Mandriva and my digital camera is not co-operating. Oh well. Little by little.

[dedanna1029]

If anyone can do it rolf, you can. Keep trying.