plugincontainer or flash? - nothing but woes.

[dedanna1029]

Is there a way to get rid of this effing plugincontainer in Firefox, and still be functional with youtube, java, etc.? A google search is only coming up with solutions for Windows, but I'm on Linux, and they also say that it would leave youtube, etc. disabled, for the most part.

Thanks.

[dedanna1029]

The reason I ask, is there is no excuse for this in top:

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top - 13:07:12 up 3 days, 14:24,  2 users,  load average: 0.95, 1.04, 0.83
Tasks: 154 total,   1 running, 153 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
-->Cpu(s): 65.2%us, 13.6%sy,  0.3%ni, 19.5%id,  0.0%wa,  1.0%hi,  0.3%si,  0.0%st
PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND           
-->3046 dedanna   20   0  211m  77m  21m S 26.8  7.7   1:15.24 plugin-containe<--

Firefox goes at a literal crawl. This is Linux - no excuse for it just over a simple browser plugin (flash/plugincontainer)

[viking60]

Yes I noticed an article about that on the net the other day. I'll have a look....
https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/forum/1/657035

Looks like it is all windows tho..

[dedanna1029]

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Thanks for having a look though.

[dedanna1029]

Beginning to wonder if it's actually plugincontainer or flash itself.

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-->Cpu(s): 92.1%us,  6.6%sy,  0.3%ni,  1.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st

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PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND           
-->22814 dedanna   20   0  751m 201m  37m R 77.6 20.1  27:51.42 flock-bin<<--

Man, this is some b.s.! I'm playing back a youtube vid!

HTML5! Bring it!

[dedanna1029]

Yes I noticed an article about that on the net the other day. I'll have a look....
https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/forum/1/657035

Looks like it is all windows tho..

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[viking60]

You tell them girl! Good comment.

[dedanna1029]

Thanks.

Well, I will have to confirm this after a time of running it, but I've now switched from the iced tea plugin, and gone to Version 6, update 21 (jre plugin).

Seems to have fixed so far, but then I've only been back up for a few seconds. LOL. Running faster so far.

[dedanna1029]

Still sitting on a cool 29% average with a youtube vid going... ... In Firefox no less.

[dedanna1029]

Look at what the dipsh*ts here did: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/forum ... tyle_plain

Marked as solved, with the resolution being:

go to about:config, and turn off this setting plugins.enabled.npswf32.dll to false, then it's fine

Um, NO. That still doesn't cure it for the Linux version! That resides nowhere in my Firefox!

Also, response to my post is totally stupid:

Well, if the problem disappears if you disable Flash, then it's a Flash problem. There's nothing else I can say about it. The only people who can say it's not a Flash problem are Adobe, because they have access to both Flash's and Firefox's source code, unlike you and me, who only have access to Firefox's. Thank you for your understanding.

Um, NO. If you disable Flash, then one no longer even needs plugincontainer, Flash is what plugincontainer is for you dumb-a$$! Disable Flash, and you disable plugincontainer anyway!

[dedanna1029]

The complete solution is really simple. Roll back to Firefox 3.5.10.

Many thanks to @ReasonVsFear on Twitter!

Stick that in yer pipe 'n smoke it, Mozilla.

[viking60]

I check how much juice firefox 3.6.8 pulls here with a video going,,,,,,
Oh yes that is a lot between 10 - 13 with a record 25 % on my old box, Without a video running Firefox pulls between 1 and 4%.
Opera 10.6 is not very different. Checking Chromium....... And it is mostly the same.
Opera and Chromium do not have the container but thy pull the same kind of power here - so it must be mostly flash related.

They do not just close down though, that is an andvantage
Checking Seamonkey...
Seamonkey.bin pulls the same kind of power up to 15 % which is very much the same. Looks like a flash problem.

During the testing I noted a big difference though. During startup Firefox pulls over 50 % that beats the next one wit a good 20 %. But that is only temporary.